I hope you don't mind me recounting a recent exchange. Here goes:
I had a conversation with a 2x, soon to be 3x vaxxed friend recently. It was a pleasant enough conversation and since she has been one of my few vaxxed friends with whom I can talk about covid to some rational extent I took the opportunity last night to ask her just a few questions about things she brought up: 1) you are vaxxed and protected, according to her, so what do you have to fear from the unvaxxed? 2) if you are very concerned about using prescription medication (she uses blood pressure pills including diuretic) why are you not concerned about these shots? She could not answer either question, she just spoke of 'wanting to be safe' and 'this is my decision'. Even when I asked again, 'what makes you feel unsafe around the unvaxxed' and 'why do you so very readily trust the shots', same non answer. There is a level and mix of fear and brainwashing that makes people like my friend cocoon themselves in whatever beliefs are required to protect their fragile psyches. Show them facts, truth but if it threatens their safety, they'll still be blind to it.
I don't know how to get through.
When the PM speaks hatefully as he does, it only encourages people like my friend. In these comments, I refer to 2 different people. I don't fear people like this friend, but I do fear people who have no problem wishing evil to others as I described below. What happens when the start acting on those wishes?
This is one reason why I am not completely against vaccine passports/segregation. I wonder who will get blamed for all the trouble when the vaxxed only associate among themselves; this is something I'm actually starting to see now.
I thought the same about the passports. If there are outbreaks then surely they'd see it has nothing to do with the unvaccinated. We've seen examples of outbreaks on Navy and cruise ships where 100% of the people were vaccinated. I also just saw a story where in isolated and remote Antarctica a fully vaccinated group got hit with Covid. But here's how they spin it: The virus exists because there aren't enough people vaccinated ergo they are spreaders. The vaccines, of course, don't prevent infection or halt the spread as we know. So it's a no-win situation for the unvaccinated. The government played this smooth and in a way that no matter what happens they can just point and scream, 'Witch!'. It's all so naked in its sloppy cynicism but the frightening part is people have actually accepted and bought into the lie.
I was asking myself this. Isn't he engaging in textbook hate speech? Can't a lawsuit be brought against him? This from a man who not only dressed as Blackface on a couple of occasions but was accused of sexual harassment but he's going to without evidence or logic assert unvaccinated people are racist and misogynistic? Who buys this nonsense and garbage? Sounds like projection to me. This kind of gaslighting and maniacal rhetorical hysterics is getting a little to troubling for my taste.
We can add to the 'fascist psychopath' part mentally ill. Mental illness runs in his family (I believe his mother is bi-polar) and it is sometimes genetic so it's not a stretch to presume Justin is suffering from some form of mental illness. I can't see how this kind of talk is possible otherwise - or even tolerated by Canadians. Their silence is equally disturbing but that's for another topic of discussion.
Didn't Premier Scott Moe say the same? And The Lancet published an article saying discriminating against the unvaccinated is scientifically unjustified.
Wasn't there a lady in Quebec who sued the PM after he called her racist? I think she unfortunately lost her case. I have honestly given consideration to lawsuits: not too long ago, there was a story in the Toronto Star where they published horrid, hateful comments about the great unvaxxed masses. They later somewhat apologized and offered a flimsy excuse for the story.
Would a lawsuit fall within the Human Rights Tribunal arena? The JCCF has done some good work but I haven't seen them tackle this yet.
Unfortunately, this type of hate filled speech is not limited to the PM. Somewhere around the time of the Tor Star article, I had an email exchange with a friend who retired from big pharma but still does consulting work in that sphere. To shorten the story, she stated her vehement support for vaccines and although she did not wish death to those of us not vaccinated, she did hope that we became very ill with covid, spent time on a ventilator, then received the hospital bill for the trouble.
I put this episode down to her terror of covid and more so, death.
This is a leader? What happened to "we are not a country that discriminates?" May the Lord Jesus Christ help us through this dark time. A quick internet search turned up this definition of a leader: "Great leaders find the balance between business foresight, performance, and character. They have vision, courage, integrity, humility, and focus, along with the ability to plan strategically and catalyze cooperation amongst their team." So it's a F for you JT. Inciting hate, separation and segregation are not behaviors becoming of a leader.
I hope you don't mind me recounting a recent exchange. Here goes:
I had a conversation with a 2x, soon to be 3x vaxxed friend recently. It was a pleasant enough conversation and since she has been one of my few vaxxed friends with whom I can talk about covid to some rational extent I took the opportunity last night to ask her just a few questions about things she brought up: 1) you are vaxxed and protected, according to her, so what do you have to fear from the unvaxxed? 2) if you are very concerned about using prescription medication (she uses blood pressure pills including diuretic) why are you not concerned about these shots? She could not answer either question, she just spoke of 'wanting to be safe' and 'this is my decision'. Even when I asked again, 'what makes you feel unsafe around the unvaxxed' and 'why do you so very readily trust the shots', same non answer. There is a level and mix of fear and brainwashing that makes people like my friend cocoon themselves in whatever beliefs are required to protect their fragile psyches. Show them facts, truth but if it threatens their safety, they'll still be blind to it.
I don't know how to get through.
When the PM speaks hatefully as he does, it only encourages people like my friend. In these comments, I refer to 2 different people. I don't fear people like this friend, but I do fear people who have no problem wishing evil to others as I described below. What happens when the start acting on those wishes?
This is one reason why I am not completely against vaccine passports/segregation. I wonder who will get blamed for all the trouble when the vaxxed only associate among themselves; this is something I'm actually starting to see now.
I thought the same about the passports. If there are outbreaks then surely they'd see it has nothing to do with the unvaccinated. We've seen examples of outbreaks on Navy and cruise ships where 100% of the people were vaccinated. I also just saw a story where in isolated and remote Antarctica a fully vaccinated group got hit with Covid. But here's how they spin it: The virus exists because there aren't enough people vaccinated ergo they are spreaders. The vaccines, of course, don't prevent infection or halt the spread as we know. So it's a no-win situation for the unvaccinated. The government played this smooth and in a way that no matter what happens they can just point and scream, 'Witch!'. It's all so naked in its sloppy cynicism but the frightening part is people have actually accepted and bought into the lie.
I was asking myself this. Isn't he engaging in textbook hate speech? Can't a lawsuit be brought against him? This from a man who not only dressed as Blackface on a couple of occasions but was accused of sexual harassment but he's going to without evidence or logic assert unvaccinated people are racist and misogynistic? Who buys this nonsense and garbage? Sounds like projection to me. This kind of gaslighting and maniacal rhetorical hysterics is getting a little to troubling for my taste.
We can add to the 'fascist psychopath' part mentally ill. Mental illness runs in his family (I believe his mother is bi-polar) and it is sometimes genetic so it's not a stretch to presume Justin is suffering from some form of mental illness. I can't see how this kind of talk is possible otherwise - or even tolerated by Canadians. Their silence is equally disturbing but that's for another topic of discussion.
I guess he didn't get the memo from Japan: https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62755. But you are right to enquire about the rest of us.
Didn't Premier Scott Moe say the same? And The Lancet published an article saying discriminating against the unvaccinated is scientifically unjustified.
Legally unjustified also, as Risch and Bradley (top-tier in their respective fields) argued a month ago: https://brownstone.org/articles/covid-19-vaccine-mandates-fail-the-jacobson-test/
Wasn't there a lady in Quebec who sued the PM after he called her racist? I think she unfortunately lost her case. I have honestly given consideration to lawsuits: not too long ago, there was a story in the Toronto Star where they published horrid, hateful comments about the great unvaxxed masses. They later somewhat apologized and offered a flimsy excuse for the story.
Would a lawsuit fall within the Human Rights Tribunal arena? The JCCF has done some good work but I haven't seen them tackle this yet.
Unfortunately, this type of hate filled speech is not limited to the PM. Somewhere around the time of the Tor Star article, I had an email exchange with a friend who retired from big pharma but still does consulting work in that sphere. To shorten the story, she stated her vehement support for vaccines and although she did not wish death to those of us not vaccinated, she did hope that we became very ill with covid, spent time on a ventilator, then received the hospital bill for the trouble.
I put this episode down to her terror of covid and more so, death.
Yeh, the irony is the vaccinated are getting more sick all of a sudden it appears. Whatever. We've lost our humanity.
This is a leader? What happened to "we are not a country that discriminates?" May the Lord Jesus Christ help us through this dark time. A quick internet search turned up this definition of a leader: "Great leaders find the balance between business foresight, performance, and character. They have vision, courage, integrity, humility, and focus, along with the ability to plan strategically and catalyze cooperation amongst their team." So it's a F for you JT. Inciting hate, separation and segregation are not behaviors becoming of a leader.
Yes, this is a leader, the kind of 'leader' we deserve if we haven't enough courage to recognize, as my friend at Open Anthropology puts it, that "the 'pandemic' is and has been a political phenomenon, first and foremost," not a medical one: https://zeroanthropology.net/2021/12/26/protecting-the-pandemic-from-the-people-perpetual-panic-permanent-emergency/